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Podcast 083 | Rob

In this episode of The Minimalists Podcast, Joshua & Ryan speak with Rob Bell in Los Angeles, and they answer the following questions:

  • What is the best way to tell people you’re a minimalist that is easiest for most people to understand and accept?
  • Is it possible to have a better life with ‘more,’ and, if so, what would that ‘more’ be?
  • How do you find a deep-rooted, lasting happiness in everything?
  • How do you find the flow that makes your work effortless?
  • Why does minimalism seem to be more popular with females than males?
  • Can minimalism help you improve your financial situation?
  • Do you ever secretly buy things and hide them from one another?
  • How do you handle a toxic relationship with a parent?

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Minimal Maxims

Joshua & Ryan’s pithy, sharable, less-than-140-character answers to the lightning-round questions:

  • Joshua on the relationship between minimalism and finances: “I made really good money in the corporate world, but I spent even better money—and that equation never works.”
  • Ryan on the relationship between minimalism and finances: “If you’ve dug yourself into a hole, there isn’t an easy way to get out of it—it’s going to take a lot of work.”
  • Rob on the relationship between minimalism and finances: “The more debt you have, the less oxygen your soul has.”
  • Joshua on toxic relationships: “Victims become victimizers.”
  • Joshua bonus maxim: “You can’t change the people around you, but you can change the people around you.”
  • Ryan on toxic relationships: “Don’t go out of your way to support someone and forsake your own meaningful life.”
  • Rob on toxic relationships: “You must determine how much you can engage with someone without losing yourself.”

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