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Podcast 053 | Organizing

In this episode of The Minimalists Podcast, Joshua & Ryan talk about organizing material possessions, and they answer the following questions:

  • Once you’ve decluttered, how do you maintain your newly minimized living space?
  • What are some good alternatives to paper planners for keeping your schedule organized?
  • What do you think of Marie Kondo’s method?
  • How do you declutter your digital collection?



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Minimal Maxims

Joshua & Ryan’s pithy, sharable, less-than-140-character answers to the lightning-round questions:

  • Joshua on recognizing when organizing is being used as a distraction: “Organizing is not nearly as freeing as letting go.”
  • Ryan on recognizing when organizing is being used as a distraction: “Distraction is a form of procrastination.”
  • Joshua on minimizing organizational tools: “It’s quixotic to assume we can use possessions to combat our problem with possessions.”
  • Ryan on minimizing organizational tools: “It’s impossible to keep it simple if you have an abundant supply of organizing materials.”
  • Joshua on using software to organize: “I embrace technology, but whenever I rely too heavily on tech, I feel disorganized.”
  • Ryan on using software to organize: “No software will do the hard work for you—taking action is our responsibility.”
  • Joshua on using organizing as an excuse to cling to stuff: “Before organizing, pretreat your possessions by getting rid of most of them.”
  • Ryan on using organizing as an excuse to cling to stuff: “You’re allowed to use as many excuses as you want in life, but it won’t be much of a meaningful life then.”
  • Joshua on everyday carry: “Everything I carry, I need.”
  • Ryan on everyday carry: “Comparing our material possessions to others is a great way to see discontent.”

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